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Re: Nightingale roses

To: "Lucke, Joseph F" <LUCKE@uthscsa.edu>
Subject: Re: Nightingale roses
From: John Fox <jfox@mcmaster.ca>
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 17:12:18 -0500
Cc: s-news@wubios.wustl.edu
In-reply-to: <EAB694F937D48A4196F6B51208ACFBC72087AE@topi.uthscsa.edu>
Dear Joe,

I believe that what you're referring to is Stevens's Law in psychophysics, which states that the perceived strength of a stimulus is proportional to some power of the physical stimulus, with the power varying by type of stimulus and by person. The average power for judgment of lengths is close to 1, while for areas it's something like 0.8, making length judgments superior in general to area judgments. This theory (and the aesthetic objections to pie charts) notwithstanding, I believe that the several experiments that have compared pie charts to bar charts have produced conflicting and inconclusive evidence.

That said, I think that this is not relevant to comparisons between coxcomb plots and pie charts, since both entail area judgments (although pie charts also encode quantity in angles and arc lengths).

Regards,
 John

At 10:07 AM 1/9/2004 -0600, you wrote:

Although Fox is technically correct, I believe there are _psychological_ results indicating that while our comparative perception of lines is directly proportional to the quantities indicated, our perception of areas is not proportional to the quantities. I've not been able to find the reference though, so this remains a factoid.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: John Fox [<mailto:jfox@mcmaster.ca>mailto:jfox@mcmaster.ca]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:28 AM
To: Naomi B. Robbins
Cc: 's-news'; Mike Friendly
Subject: Re: [S] Nightingale roses

Dear Naomi,

At 07:47 AM 1/9/2004 -0500, Naomi B. Robbins wrote:
>Apologies. I should have been more specific. There is a chapter on roses in >Wainer's "Visual Revelations." Florence Nightingale introduced these plots
>in 1858.  Other names for them are coxcomb plots, radial area plots,
>Nightingale's pies, and wedges plots. Harris in "Information Graphics" calls >them sector graphs. While a pie chart has fixed radius and varies the angles, >these plots have fixed angles and vary the radius: the radius varies with the
>square root of the data. Nightingale's example can be seen at the following
>sites:
>
><http://www.florence-nightingale.co.uk/small.htm>http://www.florence-nigh tingale.co.uk/small.htm
>
>http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/Gallery/historical.html
>
>It's clear from the latter that they can be drawn with SAS, but I don't have
>or know how to use SAS.

Michael Friendly's four-fold plots (which are coxcomb-like plots for 2 x 2
contingency tables -- Wainer discusses a similar display) are implemented
in R, both in the base package and in the vcd (visualizing categorical
data) package. You might be able to adapt this code to your needs.

>While we're on the subject, I'd also be interested in your comments on them. >Clearly they are of historical interest. They lack some of the weaknesses of
>pies, such as comparing angles.

Actually, the areas of pie segments, as well as the angles and arc lengths,
are proportional to the quantity plotted, so this isn't an argument for
coxcombs.

>  Since the same category is always in the same
>position, it is easier to compare multiple roses than pies.

This is a better point, I think.

I hope that this helps,
  John

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