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Re: intercept in jmp 7, "fit model?"

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Subject: Re: intercept in jmp 7, "fit model?"
From: "Friedman, Emil" <efriedman@mannkindcorp.com>
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 21:49:51 -0400
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Thread-topic: [jmp-l] intercept in jmp 7, "fit model?"
Let's consider a simpler example.  Imagine the two equations:
 
y = b0 + b1*X   versus    y = b'0 + b'1(X-Xbar)
 
where Xbar is the mean of the X's.  
 
The two equations will make identical predictions if
 
b1 = b'1   and    b0 = b'0 - b'1*Xbar
 
but b0 will not equal b'0 so the two approaches will give us different 
intercepts.
 
It's like going from Fahrenheit to Celcius.  The intercept on the Celcius scale 
is at freezing point of water.  The intercept on the Fahrenheit scale is at 
(I've forgotten but I think it was whatever the coldest achievable temperature 
was for the guy who invented it.)
 
Does that help?
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From: jmp-l-owner@lists.biostat.wustl.edu on behalf of Michael Bailey
Sent: Sun 5/10/2009 5:55 PM
To: jmp-l@lists.biostat.wustl.edu
Subject: Re: [jmp-l] intercept in jmp 7, "fit model?"



Thanks to Al Best for his suggestion. However, I cannot find any 
information about the intercept. I understand about centering 
continuous predictors in a polynomial context. The regression 
coefficients all make sense. What doesn't make clear sense is the 
value of the Y intercept.

For example, if I use a sample data set (Facsalarydummyexamp.jmp)

(Download:
http://www.psych.northwestern.edu/psych/people/faculty/bailey/Facsalarydummyexamp.jmp)
  if I regress Salary on Merit, Years, and their interaction, using 
the cross button in the "fit model" box, I get 55.305 for the 
intercept. If, however, I do this by first creating deviation scores 
by hand and then creating a product of deviation variables for the 
interaction term, I get exactly the same value for the regression 
coefficients--except for the intercept, which is now 50.499. I have no 
idea where that number comes from.



On May 10, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Al Best wrote:

> center polynomials

Michael Bailey
jm-bailey@northwestern.edu




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