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[S] parentheses in interaction terms - details

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Subject: [S] parentheses in interaction terms - details
From: "Isabelle Robichaud" <eir8049@umoncton.ca>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:27:18 +0800
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hello all,

Yesterday I posted a message saying I obtained different results whether I put parentheses or not in glm interaction terms. Here are my outputs (terrdens is a continuous variable, year an ordered factor with five levels):

> intercept <- glm(resid.deviance~1)
> txy <- glm(resid.deviance~terrdens:year)

> anova(txy, intercept, test="F")
Analysis of Deviance Table

Response: resid.deviance

Terms Resid.Df Resid.Dev Df
1 terrdens:year 64 12.4338 2 1 69 13.8501 -5

Deviance F Value Pr(F)
-1.41632 1.45804 0.215999

> txy2 <- glm(resid.deviance~(terrdens):(year))
> anova(txy2, intercept, test="F")

Terms Resid.Df Resid.Dev Df
1 (terrdens):(year) 60 10.4744 2 1 69 13.8501 -9

Deviance F Value Pr(F)
-3.37571 2.14855 0.0387868

> txy3 <- glm(resid.deviance~terrdens*year)
> anova(txy3, intercept, test="F")

Terms Resid.Df Resid.Dev Df
1 terrdens * year 60 10.4744
2 1 69 13.8501 -9

Deviance F Value Pr(F)
-3.37571 2.14855 0.0387868

As you can see, (terrdens):(year) is not equal to terrdens:year, but rather to terrdens*year.

When I use anova() with only one model at a time, the terms added sequentially (first to last) are:
for terrdens:year...NULL, terrdens:year (as expected)
for (terrdens):(year)...NULL, year, terrdens:year (?)
for terrdens*year...NULL, terrdens, year, terrdens:year (as expected)

It is the second model that puzzles me. Any suggestions? Thank you very much.

Isabelle Robichaud

Departement de biologie
Universite de Moncton
Moncton NB Canada E1A 3E9
e-mail: eir8049@umoncton.ca
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