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RE: [S] Zero origin.

To: "'Rolf Turner'" <rolf@math.unb.ca>, s-news@wubios.wustl.edu
Subject: RE: [S] Zero origin.
From: "Smith, Stephen" <SmithSJ@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:01:09 -0300
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As a former APLer I agree that having ability to set zero origin for
indexing has its advantages in some cases and I would like to support Rolf's
request for this to be built into SPLUS.

Stephen Smith

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rolf Turner [SMTP:rolf@math.unb.ca]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 2:55 PM
> To:   s-news@wubios.wustl.edu
> Subject:      [S] Zero origin.
> 
> 
> 
> Many mathematical structures/sequences start ``naturally'' from 0
> rather than from 1, making it convenient to index vectors and array
> dimensions by sequences starting from 0.
> 
> In APL (anybody else remember that language?  I once saw it compared
> to a car which drives only in reverse gear and is instrumented in
> Greek) there was a simple way of selecting 0-origin rather than 1-origin
> for sequence indexing.  This seems not to be possible in S(plus).
> 
> Question 1:  Might the designers of S(plus) consider adding, in some
> future release, a 0-origin switch, say to the options() function?  I
> have in mind something like being able to say:
> 
>       > options(origin=0)
> 
> after which
> 
>       > x[0:3,]
> 
> would give me the first, second, third, and fourth rows of the matrix x.
> 
> Later I would like to be able to restore normalcy by saying
> 
>       > options(origin=1)
> 
> Would this be feasible/easy/difficult/impossible given S(plus)'s
> internal structure?
> 
> It is pretty clear that if you invoked
> 
>         > options(origin=0)
> 
> and then called upon a function which was written assuming 1-origin,
> then the sky would almost surely fall.  As far as I'm concerned, that's
> quite alright and it's the user's responsibility to make sure that
> such invocations do not occur.
> 
> Question 1a:  What about R?  Would such a feature be any easier
> (or harder?) to incorporate into R?
> 
> Question 2:  Am I absolutely correct in asserting that 0-origin is
> not currently available in S(plus)?  I.e. is there any sort of
> work-around that would enable one to fake 0-origin in a moderately
> convenient way?
> 
>                                       cheers,
> 
>                                               Rolf Turner
>                                               rolf@math.unb.ca
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