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Re: [S] Does the new version of S-Plus fix num acc. and RNG problems?

To: "H. D. Vinod" <vinod@murray.fordham.edu>
Subject: Re: [S] Does the new version of S-Plus fix num acc. and RNG problems?
From: Prof Brian D Ripley <ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:59:37 +0100 (BST)
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In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.19990630142630.00796b50@murray.fordham.edu>
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On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, H. D. Vinod wrote:

> Does the new version of S-PLUS solve some of the seriuos
> numerical accuracy problems pointed out in McCullough (1999)?

Which new version did you have in mind: S-PLUS 5.1 or 2000? The RNG is
unchanged in both, and quite rightly so.

> For an academic user like me, too many new versions are not good.
> We wish they will simply fix the older versions.

Who is the `we' that you are speaking for here? Isn't it a bit arrogant to
assume to speak for all academic users?  Some of use in world-class
universities try to keep up with the latest statistical methods, even to
teach them to our students.

> For those who may have missed The American Statistician article , you may be
> interested to know that B. D. McCullough has assessed the numerical 
> reliability of S-PLUS, SAS, and SPSS.  The articles can be downloaded from 
> the TAS website http://www.amstat.org/publications/tas/
> 
> It seems that the random number generator(RNG) for s-plus fails four of the 
> DIEHARD tests and 

Yes, is that relevant? All PRNGs (they are _not_ RNGs) fail some tests, and
some of the other packages are just using PRNGs which are tuned to pass
DIEHARD. You can prove almost anything that way: the S-PLUS PRNG certainly
does not have `seriuos numerical accuracy problems': Bruce McCullough's
view is not a definitive one, but just one author's opinion.

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Brian D. Ripley,                  ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk
Professor of Applied Statistics,  http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
University of Oxford,             Tel:  +44 1865 272861 (self)
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