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Re: In search of useful help files on Windows

To: "Wright, Kevin" <WRIGHTKEVI@phibred.com>
Subject: Re: In search of useful help files on Windows
From: Frank E Harrell Jr <fharrell@virginia.edu>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:11:52 -0500
Cc: "S-News (E-mail)" <s-news@wubios.wustl.edu>
Organization: University of Virginia
References: <C71CB7425639D311A7A40008C7286AB0037EA4B4@carina.phibred.com>
Dear Kevin,

You raised some excellent points.  I believe that things are actually
going to get worse in S-Plus 6.0 as I think that even more
proprietary (if that's possible) Microsoft help software will
be used on the Windows version, while Java will be used on
other versions.  The Java-based help system is, from my
limited testing, somewhat slow and does not render the
display very clearly.  Search capabilities are not impressive.
The Java help system uses a lot of memory.  I hope that
someone from Insightful will correct me if I have
misstated any of this or if I have not kept up with current
developments of the help system.

The HTML system you provided a link to is impressive.  I
would like to know how the files were converted.  I have
not been able to understand why S-Plus does not rely more
on HTML except for the issues related to math symbols and
graphics.

For my Hmisc and Design libraries I plan to maintain html
online documentation (see 
http://hesweb1.med.virginia.edu/biostat/s/help/00Index.html
) as a primary format.  A disadvantage of this approach is
that it fails to link into "See also" functions that are
in the main package.

For the R html help system see 
http://stat.ethz.ch/R-alpha/Rrelease/doc/html/

Frank Harrell


"Wright, Kevin" wrote:
> 
> I use S-Plus 2000 on Windows 95.  The Windows help files give me a fair bit
> of frustration.  For example, if I pull up the help file for "par" and want
> to read about "pty", I have to manually search through the help file to find
> "pty".
> 
> What I'd like is to be able to search an individual help file for text.
> Does anybody have suggestions for this?
> 
> HTML would be good.  "man" pages would be good (actually great since then a
> person can use "man -k" and/or "grep" for searching).  "nroff" is good since
> there are utilities to turn it into other formats. Proprietary formats (from
> Microsoft) are very, very, very bad.
> 
> Here are some of my own attempts to satisfy my desire:
> 
> 1. Use Acrobat Reader to search the PDF manuals.  Not too bad, but searching
> is slow and results in lots of false positives.
> 
> 2. I've searched for a freeware program that reads Windows help files and
> has the ability to search individual help files.  No luck.
> 
> 3. I have searched on the web for a tool to convert Windows help files to
> HTML files (or nroff, tex-info, or anything) and have come up with very
> little.
> 
> 4. Benno Sueselbeck converted nroff files to HTML and has them posted at
> this site which I find extraordinarily useful and easy to use (Insightful,
> please take note!)
> 
> http://www.uni-muenster.de/ZIV/Mitarbeiter/BennoSueselbeck/s-html/shelp.html
> 
> 5. With the upcoming near-synchronization of Windows/UNIX versions of
> S-Plus, would Insightful consider including source "code" for the help
> (nroff or whatever they're using now) in a directory on the CD so we can
> format it as we like best?
> 
> Thanks for any ideas.  I'll summarize useful information to S-news.
> 
> Kevin Wright, Research Scientist
> Pioneer Hi-Bred Int'l, x4054.
> 
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Frank E Harrell Jr              Prof. of Biostatistics & Statistics
Div. of Biostatistics & Epidem. Dept. of Health Evaluation Sciences
U. Virginia School of Medicine  http://hesweb1.med.virginia.edu/biostat

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