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modelling a nested MANOVA

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Subject: modelling a nested MANOVA
From: "Bill Shipley" <Bill.Shipley@Usherbrooke.ca>
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:28:51 -0700
Hello.  I am trying to analyse a data set with multiple dependent variables in a nested design.  This requires a nested MANOVA and I don't know how to specify the error structure.  I am using SPLUS 6.  Any help is welcome.
Data structure:  A field is divided into 4 blocks.  Each block contains 4 parcels and one of 4 levels of a treatment is randomly assigned to each parcel in each block.  6 soil cores are randomly extracted from each parcel and each soil core is analysed in triplicate.  There are 26 dependent variables (abundances of each of 26 "species" of soil bacteria). 
 
Analysis: Because of the nested structure, the treatment effect has to compare the responses between treatments with the responses between parcels within  treatments (similarly for the block effect).  Systematic differences between soil cores within a parcel would be tested by comparing the between-cores within parcels responses to the between-replicates within cores within parcels responses.
 
Model (I think...): cbind(y1,y2 etc) ~ block + treatment + block:treatment + cores%in%block:treatment
 
Problem:
How do I specify that the treatment and block effects are to be tested using the block:treatment term as the error and not the default residuals (which are the between-replicates within cores within parcels)?
 
 
Bill Shipley
Departement de biologie, Universite de Sherbrooke,
Sherbrooke (Quebec) J1K 2R1
CANADA
Bill.Shipley@USherbrooke.ca
http://callisto.si.usherb.ca:8080/bshipley/
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