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Re: confidence ellipses

To: Prof Brian D Ripley <ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: confidence ellipses
From: Pedram Sendi <psendi@uhbs.ch>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 22:51:13 +0200
Cc: <s-news@lists.biostat.wustl.edu>
In-reply-to: <Pine.WNT.4.44.0309160936290.3768-100000@petrel>
Thanks for these hints. The approximated bivariate distribution is actually bivariate normal so I wouldn't expect something else than an ellipse. I will check the MASS book!
 
Pedram
 
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:44:12 +0100 (GMT Dayligh, Prof Brian D Ripley wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Pedram Sendi wrote:
>
>>I have approximated a bivariate distribution f(a,b) using
>>simulation, i.e.
>>I have 5000 values of pairs of a,b. I would now like to plot a
>>smooth 95%
>>confidence ellipse, 50% confidence ellipse and 5% confidence
>>ellipse. The
>>contour plot feature does not seem to work. I would be very
>>grateful if
>>someone could tell me how to accomplish this in S-Plus 6.1 for
>>Windows.
>
>So you approximated a density by 5000 point values?  That's not a
>very good
>approximation!  What makes you think that there is a confidence
>ellipse (as
>distinct from any other shape of region)?  And do you mean a
>confidence
>region, which needs a parametrized model?
>
>What I can help with is finding a contour plot of the underlying
>density.
>First find a 2d density estimate (using e.g. kde2d in MASS or the
>functions
>in KernSmooth), and compute the density values of your 5000 points,
>and
>sort them.  Then the 5%, 50% and 95% quantiles of those density
>values can
>be used as contour levels for a plot of the density estimate
>(evaluated at
>a rectangular grid).  That's the best interpretation I can find of
>your
>intentions.  You will find relevant examples in MASS (the book).
>
>An alternative interpretation would be to assume a bivariate normal
>or t
>distribution (which have elliptical contours), fit that and then
>plot the
>appropriate density contours.
 
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