I have used postscript and GSView with very satisfactory results. GSView can
translate postscript in a whole range of formats in high resolution (much
higher than a screen capture) some of them no-loss formats such as bitmaps
and tiff. JPEG is not good for fine lines because it interpolates when it
compresses so that hard borders become fuzzy and the image doesn't look
crisp anymore. Another decent possibility is using pdf and then just copying
and pasting from Acrobat Reader. That works fairly well, too.
Cheers
Volker
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Monteleone" <monte@ihug.co.nz>
To: "Prof Brian Ripley" <ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk>
Cc: "Julie Thornton" <jthornto@bio.ri.ccf.org>;
<s-news@lists.biostat.wustl.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:42
Subject: Re: Importing/Exporting Graphics
| On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
| > Many of us find any route that involves bitmapped images (such as JPEG)
| > unsatisfactory. And as the P in JPEG is `photographic', JPEG is amongst
| > the worst options for line figures. I would be particularly careful
with
| > using a screen capture program on X11 as anti-aliasing, colour dithering
| > and so on may affect the screen image. But we were told Julie is using
| > Exceed, so she needs screen capture options *on Windows*.
|
| Most of the splus figures I have generated are surfaces and not just plain
| x-y line plots, so I just tested my method using some examples in the
splus
| help sections for xyplot() and plot(). Other than having to adjust the
| contrast and brightness of the figure it looked fine in word and printed
out
| looking as good as if I printed it from splus. I am assuming you say that
| jpg format is poor for line figures because of data lost during
compression?
| If that is not the reason then I am confused why the jpg format is
| unsatisfactory?
|
| Quite right about the screen capture program being on windows. I missed
the
| bit about Exceed.
|
| > You will do much better to produce postscript on Unix or Windows and if
| > necessary bitmap that at the desired final size using GSView or
PhotoShop
| > or ....
| I have never had much success with postscript manipulation and importing
| into word. From my experience the figure axes become skewed and
unreadable.
| Perhaps I am doing something wrong?
|
| > It is the convention on this list to copy your reply to the person on
| > whose message you are commenting -- although you wrote to `Julie' you
| > enclosed a message from me. No sign that you actually read it, though!
| Apologies. I removed your name because I wanted to save you some spam.
You
| would see it in the list anyway.
|
| The general question about importing an splus figure into word is seen on
| this list every few months.
| I wonder:
| 1) Is the topic covered in the FAQ that is posted out occasionally?
| 2) Is there a "best" method for quickly and easily formatting figures for
| importing into a word document?
| 3) What is that method if it exists?
|
| People use different methods to achieve pasting a figure into word, and it
| seems to me this is something that should have one best method.
| Cheers -Jon
| ---
| Jonathan Monteleone (MS), j.monteleone@auckland.ac.nz
| Dept of Pharmacology & Clinical Pharmacology, School of Medicine
| 85 Park Rd, Private Bag 92019, Auckland, New Zealand
| Work phone: +64 (9) 3737599 ext 86732
| Pharmacometric Resources at
| http://www.health.auckland.ac.nz/pharmacology/staff/nholford/pkpd/pkpd.htm
| ---
|
| > On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Jon Monteleone wrote:
| >
| > > Julie,
| > > If you have become good at navigating through both Unix and Wintel,
then
| you
| > > might take an additional leap and try the following:
| > > 1) Get the figure to look good in S-plus on your screen
| > > 2) Use a screen capture program and save the image as a jpg (dont know
| one
| > > off-hand for unix)
| > > 3) Touch up, i.e. resize to fit into word document, the jpg using
| something
| > > like photoshop
| > > 4) Import the jpg (your s-plus figure) into word
| > > Once you have done it a few times this method is quick and easy to use
| with
| > > the added bonus that it preserves the same view you see in s-plus! I
| have
| > > used this method extensively for my thesis figures.
| > >
| > > I do realize there are "built-in" figure saving options (both in the
gui
| and
| > > native s calls) to export figures from s-plus, but I have been
| unsatisfied
| > > with their results. There is also another path you could try. Not
sure
| if
| > > unix s-plus allows this, but in windows s-plus 2k (version 6?) there
is
| an
| > > option in one of the drop-down menus that allows you to export your
| figure
| > > to powerpoint. This sometimes works well, but manipulating the figure
| once
| > > in powerpoint can be cumbersome.
| > >
| > > Hope that helps!
| > > Cheers -Jon
| > > ---
| > > Jonathan Monteleone (MS), j.monteleone@auckland.ac.nz
| > > Dept of Pharmacology & Clinical Pharmacology, School of Medicine
| > > 85 Park Rd, Private Bag 92019, Auckland, New Zealand
| > > Work phone: +64 (9) 3737599 ext 86732
| > > Pharmacometric Resources at
| > >
| http://www.health.auckland.ac.nz/pharmacology/staff/nholford/pkpd/pkpd.htm
| > > ---
| > >
| > > ----- Original Message -----
| > > From: "Prof Brian Ripley" <ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk>
| > > To: "Julie Thornton" <jthornto@bio.ri.ccf.org>
| > > Cc: <s-news@lists.biostat.wustl.edu>
| > > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 10:29 AM
| > > Subject: Re: [S] Importing/Exporting Graphics
| > >
| > >
| > > > On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Julie Thornton wrote:
| > > >
| > > > > I work on a PC and log into Unix using Exceed. When I have
several
| > > > > plots on a page, it is really difficult to put the same plot I see
| in
| > > > > the S-PLUS (Unix version) graphics windows into Word (on PC side;
| most
| > > > > investigators want to receive memos in Word). I save them as word
| meta
| > > > > files (using wmf.graph) in S-PLUS and then insert them into Word.
I
| > > > > often lose numbers on my axes and the resolution is much poorer in
| Word.
| > > > > I spend a lot of time going back and forth between operating
| systems to
| > > > > make the plots look right in Word. The plots look extremely
| different
| > > > > in S-PLUS, Word, and even when they are printed. Has anyone else
| > > > > experienced this and/or have any suggestions? Do you think having
| > > > > S-PLUS on the PC side would be helpful?
| > > >
| > > > Yes, somewhat. But the problem is that `wmf' is a proprietary
| > > > non-standard and Insightful's best attempts to track it (kudos to
Bill
| > > > Dunlap) are not perfect, even on Windows. (Pause: whichever
| statistical
| > > > package on Unix can write wmf at all?) And `Word' can famously
mangle
| wmf
| > > > that any other application can read.
| > > >
| > > > If you can, use postscript and include in `Word' docs. If you
can't,
| an
| > > > alternative route is http://www.pstoedit.net/pstoedit/ which despite
| its
| > > > website (thanks Bill Pikounis) can convert postscript to wmf on Unix
| on
| > > > Unix/Linux. Again, not perfect.
| > > >
| > > > --
| > > > Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk
| > > > Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
| > > > University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self)
| > > > 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA)
| > > > Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
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