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Re: AR for short, not equally spaced TS

To: "Spencer Graves" <spencer.graves@pdf.com>, "Eric Zivot" <ezivot@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: AR for short, not equally spaced TS
From: "Wang, Zhu" <zhuw@mail.smu.edu>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:05:04 -0500
Cc: "Xao Ping" <xao_ping@yahoo.com>, "s-plus user list" <s-news@lists.biostat.wustl.edu>
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Thread-topic: [S] AR for short, not equally spaced TS
For not equally spaced TS, you may consider continous model fitting. I have 
developed an R package. See references and the program at people.smu.edu/zhuw.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Zhu

-----Original Message-----
From: s-news-owner@lists.biostat.wustl.edu on behalf of Spencer Graves
Sent: Wed 6/22/2005 1:00 PM
To: Eric Zivot
Cc: 'Xao Ping'; 's-plus user list'
Subject: Re: [S] AR for short, not equally spaced TS
 
          ERIC:  Does S-Plus have Kalman filtering software that would work 
with 6 short irregular time series?

          Xao Ping:  What do your 36 numbers look like?  For example, do you 
get crudely a straight line with "qqnorm"?  If yes, I think "lme" with 
"correlation=corCAR1" might give you something useful.  I haven't used 
"corCAR1", but it looks like that should work.  Of course, it would help 
to consult Pinheiro and Bates (2000) Mixed-Effects Models in S and 
S-Plus (Springer, esp. sec. 5.3).  For testing, I think I would want to 
use "simulate.lme" as described in Pinheiro and Bates (sec. 2.4), in 
part because some of the things you might want to test would have 
parameters at a boundary, which would create problems with the usual 
asymptotics.

          spencer graves

Eric Zivot wrote:

> One way to think of the irregular spacing is in terms of missing data. 
> The true process works on equally spaced data but you ony observe data 
> on specific dates. An AR type model can be fit using Kalman Filter 
> techniques that automatically take care of the missing data.
>  
> 
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> [mailto:s-news-owner@lists.biostat.wustl.edu] On Behalf Of Xao Ping
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:20 AM
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> Subject: [S] AR for short, not equally spaced TS
> 
> Dear All:
> I am analyzing a time course microarray experiment. I have only 6 chips 
> taken in the moments of time 10, 501,2, , 85, 100 (relative units). I am 
> thinking to apply time series analysis methods, such as AR or ARMA or 
> ARIMA. I have several questions
> 1. Is it appropriate at all to think about autoregressive methods when 
> the TS are not equally spaced? If the answer is "NO", then are there any 
> alternative approaches?
> 2. Is it possible to extract any useful information having only 6 data 
> points?
>  
> Any relevant experience or advice are highly appreciated
>  
> thank you in advance
> Xao Ping
> R&R Pharmakinetics 
> Taiwan
> 
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