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Re: Concerns about SPLUS version 7

To: "Rolf Turner" <rolf@math.unb.ca>
Subject: Re: Concerns about SPLUS version 7
From: kwright@eskimo.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:39:06 -0700 (PDT)
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Well, Rolf, I think you need to try harder to fathom. :-)  This debate is
not new, but here are some of my current reasons to use S-Plus, both
idealogical and practical.  (I do also use R).

1. Competition can be good.
2. S-plus has tools for connectivity to other software.  For example,
opening Excel in S-Plus and calling S-Plus functions from Excel.  Neither
feature is as easy in R.
3. S-Plus is part of StatServer, which is a nice system for
enterprise-wide statistical analyses and reports.  Doing the same in R
requires expertise in some hodgepodge collection of things like SOAP,
PERL, etc.
4. Some organizations will only use software that can be purchased.
5. When I send email to R-devel, I cross my fingers that (a) Someone will
please answer and (b) I won't have my question (or myself) critiqued. 
Insightful support is friendlier and always answers (admittedly, not
always with a solution).
6. I have filed fewer bug reports about S-Plus than I have about R.
7. S-Plus has some libraries that are not available in R.  For example,
the robust library is nice and I think it is better than the robust
statistical methods in R.
8. Insightful is a channel for turning a few million dollars of research
grants into software that benefits us all.

Best,

Kevin Wright.  S-Plus user 1994-2005.  R User 2001-2005.


> I cannot for the life of me fathom why ***anyone*** would use SPLUS
> anymore.  No one that I know does so.  All use R.  The only problem
> that ever arises is of the nature of ``Whoops!  I have this data set
> stored as an SPLUS object, and I can't get at it.  And none of my
> mates can help me out because none of them has access to SPLUS
> either.''
>
> This problem is decaying exponentially however.
>
>                               cheers,
>
>                                       Rolf Turner
>                                       rolf@math.unb.ca


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