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Re: lme coefficients question

To: "Roberts, J. Kyle" <jkrobert@bcm.tmc.edu>
Subject: Re: lme coefficients question
From: "Fletcher, Thomas" <fletchert@umsl.edu>
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:36:20 -0500
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Thread-topic: lme coefficients question
It didn't occur to me that the two renderered different results until you 
mentioned it. But, here's what I have been able to detect.
 
lme.out$coef give the 'grand' intercept and the differences for each group from 
that intercept (or other random effects). So, take the fixed effect for the 
intercept (or other fixed effects) and then add the coef rendered from 
lme.out$coef.
 
On the other hand,
 
coef(lme.out) gives the effects for all groups and all effects. So, the 
difference is already computed. 
 
If you have model with random intercepts and 1 fixed predictor. coef(lme.out) 
will still provide a value for each group for the fixed predictor that doesn't 
change. It's fixed. lme.out$coef doesn't replicate this fixed effect. It is 
presented only once.
 
Again, I am not sure why this is the case. It just happens to be what I noticed 
in a somewhat simple model.
 
HTH
Tom

 
 
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Subject: [S] lme coefficients question


Dear All,
 
I have a question about lme.  When I run:
coef(lme.out)
 
I get different results from when I run:
lme.out$coef
 
I know from my data that the coef(lme.out) contains the right values.  Can 
anyone tell me what lme.out$coef is doing?
 
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