I
suppose that someone out there had put together a matrix listing capabilities
(of course one of them being $, data set size, different algorithms, etc)…
I
know posting to an S-user group is going to yield a little bit of bias, but I
have read some honest to goodness objective opinions on here.
Really,
I suppose a good question is to ask how many people that read this have used
both packages. I have used both S+ and SAS, but I haven’t
used both Insightful Miner and SAS Enterprise Miner. I used SAS
Enterprise Miner one semester in a college course (and another one called WEKA
in another class). So who is knowledgeable of both Data Mining
packages?
I
know one of the old arguments revolves around the size of the data set. However,
with the S-plus Big Data Library, it is probably not an issue. I work off
a PC so it would be single user license and I tap into various systems. I
currently use SEQUEL Viewpoint to grab data which I analyze.
Maybe
I will pose my questions to both SAS and Insightful sales reps and see what the
answer they offer. Again, I will probably need to use a bias correction
factor to both answers.
I
am just surprised that the question of comparison between data mining packages
wouldn’t have bubbled up before.
-Jason
Overstreet
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[mailto:s-news-owner@lists.biostat.wustl.edu] On Behalf Of Dario.Ciraki@ubs.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 2:46 PM
To: s-news@lists.biostat.wustl.edu
Subject: Re: [S] Insightful Miner vs. SAS Enterprise Miner
I-Miner comes with S+, so you can use S language, with SAS if you
don't have a button for something you are in the world of pain. Also
unless you are in academia and getting software for nomial cost you are
comparing two applications with price ration of 1:10, which has more to do with
the size of the problems SAS is supposed to be able to handle then with the
methods it implements. Given you know what you need, you choice should be easy.
From: s-news-owner@lists.biostat.wustl.edu
[mailto:s-news-owner@lists.biostat.wustl.edu] On Behalf Of A.J. Rossini
Sent: 02 October 2007 20:33
To: Overstreet, Jason
Cc: s-news@lists.biostat.wustl.edu
Subject: Re: [S] Insightful Miner vs. SAS Enterprise Miner
You havn't given the
constraints for what you want to accomplish, but I disagree with the spirit of
what your friend said.
(similarly, most of the functions and procedures can be duplicated with
assembly language, but we aren't going there, either).
Without knowing what you want to accomplish and a bit about the environment and
constraints, all you'll get are biased opinions which if you are really lucky,
might be relevant to your case.
On 10/2/07, Overstreet, Jason
<joverstreet@hotwater.com>
wrote:
I need to make an objective
decision on whether to
use Insightful Miner or SAS Enterprise Miner. If anyone has any
references, opinion, or otherwise helpful inputs into something that will describe the
basic differences between the two –
this would be greatly appreciated. I
just got off the phone with a friend of mine who is a
professor and he said that most of the functions and procedures can be
duplicated within the base languages. I don 't think this is a realistic option since I have to
produce results and don't have a lot of time reinventing the wheel.
Please throw your opinions out there on the subject. Thanks very much in
advance…
Jason Overstreet
Statistician
ASQ: CRE, CQE
A.O. Smith
106 Adkisson Street
Ashland, TN 37015
Office: (615) 792-6253
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Email: joverstreet@hotwater.com
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-tony
blindglobe@gmail.com
Muttenz, Switzerland.
"Commit early,commit often, and commit in a repository from which we can
easily roll-back your mistakes" (AJR, 4Jan05).
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