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Re: lme for count data?

To: "Austin, Matt" <maustin@amgen.com>, "A&B Penner" <pennerab@gmail.com>, <s-news@lists.biostat.wustl.edu>
Subject: Re: lme for count data?
From: "Michael O'Connell" <moconnell@insightful.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:27:36 -0400
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Thread-topic: [S] lme for count data?
yes, the correlatedData library and associated glme() function postdate the Pinheiro and Bates text.
 
gee() in the correlatedData library will also work for these data. I prefer the glme() implementation in this case.
 
Michael


From: s-news-owner@lists.biostat.wustl.edu [mailto:s-news-owner@lists.biostat.wustl.edu] On Behalf Of Austin, Matt
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:14 PM
To: A&B Penner; s-news@lists.biostat.wustl.edu
Subject: Re: [S] lme for count data?

In the past I would have suggested looking at glmmPQL() in the MASS library or glme() in the correlatedData library if you have grouped count data, but I can’t find the correlatedData library in version 8.

 

Another alternative would be a GEE approach.

 

The MASS text by Venables and Ripley gives a short overview of both methods (PQL and GEE) and good references for deeper study.  It also gives a brief explanation of the difference in interpretation between the methods.  I believe the correlatedData library and associated glme() function postdate the Pinheiro and Bates text.

 

 

--Matt

 


From: s-news-owner@lists.biostat.wustl.edu [mailto:s-news-owner@lists.biostat.wustl.edu] On Behalf Of A&B Penner
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:50 PM
To: s-news@lists.biostat.wustl.edu
Subject: [S] lme for count data?

 

Hi,

I'd like to fit a mixed-effects model to my data. Pinheiro and Bates (2000) write that "These models are intended for grouped data in which the response variable is (at least approximately) continuous." My response variable is count data with range from 0-4, mean 1.7, median 2.0, stdev 0.8, and an approximately normal distribution. Can I use the lme function for this data?

Thank you,
A. Penner

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